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	<title>Comments on: More Offseason Musings</title>
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		<title>By: sirsean</title>
		<link>http://firegardy.com/2008/10/06/more-offseason-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>sirsean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In Atkins&#039; career away from Coors Field, he&#039;s hitting .260/.328/.424; those are not impressive numbers. And they&#039;re going to want a whole lot in return, in addition to the fact that they don&#039;t really need a corner outfielder this year, unless they deal Holliday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hey, in order to get the credibility of this site on par with Hartman&#039;s, we&#039;d have to start breaking rumors here, citing unnamed sources and/or little birdies.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Atkins&#8217; career away from Coors Field, he&#8217;s hitting .260/.328/.424; those are not impressive numbers. And they&#8217;re going to want a whole lot in return, in addition to the fact that they don&#8217;t really need a corner outfielder this year, unless they deal Holliday.</p>

<p>Hey, in order to get the credibility of this site on par with Hartman&#8217;s, we&#8217;d have to start breaking rumors here, citing unnamed sources and/or little birdies.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: FunBobby</title>
		<link>http://firegardy.com/2008/10/06/more-offseason-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>FunBobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, Sid Hartman is about as credible as this site. Since this is the first time he has been used as a source, you might say we are MORE credible.  Since I am able to stay awake for an entire Twins game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If we can fill a need by trading young, I&#039;m all for it.  Maybe Garret Atkins or Ian Stewart.  I&#039;m wary of trading for Rockies, but they are both pretty good.  I&#039;m also not too sure if the Rockies would bite on that trade.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Sid Hartman is about as credible as this site. Since this is the first time he has been used as a source, you might say we are MORE credible.  Since I am able to stay awake for an entire Twins game.</p>

<p>If we can fill a need by trading young, I&#8217;m all for it.  Maybe Garret Atkins or Ian Stewart.  I&#8217;m wary of trading for Rockies, but they are both pretty good.  I&#8217;m also not too sure if the Rockies would bite on that trade.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sirsean</title>
		<link>http://firegardy.com/2008/10/06/more-offseason-musings/comment-page-1/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>sirsean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the Delmon Young update: that&#039;s interesting, and I was wondering if they&#039;d do something like that. I ended up coming to the conclusion that if they were to trade an OF, Cuddyer would be the better option, and I don&#039;t think the Twins want to see Cuddyer gone any more than I do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But in all honesty, this is from Sid Hartman. And any time he says something that would be this huge, he prefaces it with &quot;The Twins won&#039;t talk about it, but it&#039;s expected that...&quot; Yeah. Expected by whom? Sid Hartman? He&#039;s just making stuff up to get the hot stove season started.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I doubt the Twins will actually dangle either Delmon or Cuddyer, and if one of them ends up being traded it&#039;ll have to be a killer offer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Delmon Young update: that&#8217;s interesting, and I was wondering if they&#8217;d do something like that. I ended up coming to the conclusion that if they were to trade an OF, Cuddyer would be the better option, and I don&#8217;t think the Twins want to see Cuddyer gone any more than I do.</p>

<p>But in all honesty, this is from Sid Hartman. And any time he says something that would be this huge, he prefaces it with &#8220;The Twins won&#8217;t talk about it, but it&#8217;s expected that&#8230;&#8221; Yeah. Expected by whom? Sid Hartman? He&#8217;s just making stuff up to get the hot stove season started.</p>

<p>I doubt the Twins will actually dangle either Delmon or Cuddyer, and if one of them ends up being traded it&#8217;ll have to be a killer offer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sirsean</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reyes will get a pretty big raise this offseason ... from someone else. To another team, he&#039;s &quot;worth&quot; over $2M. To us, he&#039;s not even worth the inordinate amount of space he takes up on the bench.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the Twins will re-sign Punto, probably for a salary in range with what you&#039;re thinking. Hopefully it&#039;s no more than a two year deal. But in reality, I think Punto is a valuable player -- he&#039;s proven his ability at three defensive positions and is almost adequate with the bat. Harris is nowhere close to as versatile AND is a disappointment as a hitter. Tolbert looks like he could be the next Punto, but I don&#039;t see the Twins taking the risk on a new Punto who hasn&#039;t proven anything and also hasn&#039;t learned to avoid the idiotic &quot;fake hustle injuries&quot; that plagued Punto earlier in his career. (Remember when Punto broke his collarbone diving for a popup that was 20 feet past his reach? Ultimate fake hustle injury.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of the current players, I think the biggest question is whether they offer arbitration or a multi-year contract to Guerrier and Kubel. In Guerrier&#039;s case, arbitration may be the right route, given that he showed that he may have lost it this season -- on the other hand, given his performance this year the Twins could get a multi-year deal on the cheap if they believe it was a fluke. We&#039;ll see, but I&#039;m leaning towards arbitration.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last season, Kubel was clamoring for a multi-year deal, saying that he wanted to be part of this team for years. The Twins were reluctant, probably because they hadn&#039;t bought their t-shirts. Kubel is the team&#039;s third best hitter, and is more valuable than Cuddyer -- his numbers are actually remarkably similar to Cuddyer&#039;s. He&#039;s weaker in the field, but it looks like Cuddyer will be squeezed out of the outfield, making that difference unimportant. If I were the Twins, I&#039;d lock Kubel up on a 3-4 year deal. But since I know the Twins hate Kubel, I&#039;m guessing they&#039;ll just go to arbitration. I think they&#039;ll enjoy trying to convince the arbitrator that Kubel sucks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reyes will get a pretty big raise this offseason &#8230; from someone else. To another team, he&#8217;s &#8220;worth&#8221; over $2M. To us, he&#8217;s not even worth the inordinate amount of space he takes up on the bench.</p>

<p>I think the Twins will re-sign Punto, probably for a salary in range with what you&#8217;re thinking. Hopefully it&#8217;s no more than a two year deal. But in reality, I think Punto is a valuable player &#8212; he&#8217;s proven his ability at three defensive positions and is almost adequate with the bat. Harris is nowhere close to as versatile AND is a disappointment as a hitter. Tolbert looks like he could be the next Punto, but I don&#8217;t see the Twins taking the risk on a new Punto who hasn&#8217;t proven anything and also hasn&#8217;t learned to avoid the idiotic &#8220;fake hustle injuries&#8221; that plagued Punto earlier in his career. (Remember when Punto broke his collarbone diving for a popup that was 20 feet past his reach? Ultimate fake hustle injury.)</p>

<p>Of the current players, I think the biggest question is whether they offer arbitration or a multi-year contract to Guerrier and Kubel. In Guerrier&#8217;s case, arbitration may be the right route, given that he showed that he may have lost it this season &#8212; on the other hand, given his performance this year the Twins could get a multi-year deal on the cheap if they believe it was a fluke. We&#8217;ll see, but I&#8217;m leaning towards arbitration.</p>

<p>Last season, Kubel was clamoring for a multi-year deal, saying that he wanted to be part of this team for years. The Twins were reluctant, probably because they hadn&#8217;t bought their t-shirts. Kubel is the team&#8217;s third best hitter, and is more valuable than Cuddyer &#8212; his numbers are actually remarkably similar to Cuddyer&#8217;s. He&#8217;s weaker in the field, but it looks like Cuddyer will be squeezed out of the outfield, making that difference unimportant. If I were the Twins, I&#8217;d lock Kubel up on a 3-4 year deal. But since I know the Twins hate Kubel, I&#8217;m guessing they&#8217;ll just go to arbitration. I think they&#8217;ll enjoy trying to convince the arbitrator that Kubel sucks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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