Comments on: The Sunflower Attack http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/ Mismanaging games since 2002 Mon, 07 May 2012 02:37:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: rghrbek http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3331 rghrbek Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:55:51 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3331 <p>Apparently a twins scout thinks he cannot field, despite everything and anything I can find on Lopez, stating that he is average to above average.</p> <p>I think Lopez can be had for cheaper, and although not as good in the field as Hudson, his bat is proven and he is a patient prototype #2 hitter.</p> <p>Makes sense to us maybe, but not to the Twins.</p> <p>I really don't feel they are going to do anything.</p> Apparently a twins scout thinks he cannot field, despite everything and anything I can find on Lopez, stating that he is average to above average.

I think Lopez can be had for cheaper, and although not as good in the field as Hudson, his bat is proven and he is a patient prototype #2 hitter.

Makes sense to us maybe, but not to the Twins.

I really don’t feel they are going to do anything.

]]> By: FunBobby http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3330 FunBobby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:07:52 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3330 <p>It is very frustrating that they think Punto and Jesse Crain are worth 4 and 2 million respectively, but Orlando Hudson is not worth 3 million for one year. Unless that salary figure for Hudson is wrong and he really wants somewhere in the 7-9 range. </p> <p>While everyone is talkng about Hudson, why don't we go out and get Lopez on the cheap? I rarely hear anything about him anymore.</p> It is very frustrating that they think Punto and Jesse Crain are worth 4 and 2 million respectively, but Orlando Hudson is not worth 3 million for one year. Unless that salary figure for Hudson is wrong and he really wants somewhere in the 7-9 range.

While everyone is talkng about Hudson, why don’t we go out and get Lopez on the cheap? I rarely hear anything about him anymore.

]]> By: sirsean http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3329 sirsean Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:00:23 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3329 <p>The problem is that if we go over and it <em>doesn't</em> work, then all the fans will still be calling for them to raise the budget further, not realizing that they were already spending too much.</p> <p>I'd be careful about the short-sighted "give it to me now, nothing could possibly go wrong" attitude ... it seems to have worked terribly in another sector of the economy lately.</p> The problem is that if we go over and it doesn’t work, then all the fans will still be calling for them to raise the budget further, not realizing that they were already spending too much.

I’d be careful about the short-sighted “give it to me now, nothing could possibly go wrong” attitude … it seems to have worked terribly in another sector of the economy lately.

]]> By: FunBobby http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3328 FunBobby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:54:41 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3328 <p>I did some fuzzy math, and if we have one home playoff game we can make that money back. I assumed and average playoff ticket price of 75 bucks, and 45K people. Seems like an easy decision.</p> I did some fuzzy math, and if we have one home playoff game we can make that money back. I assumed and average playoff ticket price of 75 bucks, and 45K people. Seems like an easy decision.

]]> By: rghrbek http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3327 rghrbek Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:06:17 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3327 <p>Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and go over because you think it makes you that much better or gives you a shot at a ring.</p> <p>The Twins are responsible to a fault and will not do this.</p> <p>I just want to feel like they really want to go to the next level. </p> <p>Regardless they are a better team on paper than last year, in the worst division in baseball.</p> Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and go over because you think it makes you that much better or gives you a shot at a ring.

The Twins are responsible to a fault and will not do this.

I just want to feel like they really want to go to the next level.

Regardless they are a better team on paper than last year, in the worst division in baseball.

]]> By: sirsean http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3326 sirsean Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:45:59 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3326 <p>It really is mind boggling that they consider $3M to be too much for Hudson. If he's available for $3M ... that's an even better deal than we got for Thome. And we should jump on it immediately.</p> <p>I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Punto makes <em>more than that</em> and is currently penciled in as the starting 2B.</p> <p>But, budget-wise, the Twins don't really <em>know</em> how much money they have available. It's possible that they set their budget at $90M for 2010, and only went above it because Thome dropped to such a low price. If they're already over-budget, they're going to have trouble adding Hudson at any price. It sucks, of course, but that's generally how budgets work, especially for teams without unlimited funds.</p> <p>Even the Yankees are unwilling, this year, to stretch beyond their budget (even though their revenues are sky-high).</p> It really is mind boggling that they consider $3M to be too much for Hudson. If he’s available for $3M … that’s an even better deal than we got for Thome. And we should jump on it immediately.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Punto makes more than that and is currently penciled in as the starting 2B.

But, budget-wise, the Twins don’t really know how much money they have available. It’s possible that they set their budget at $90M for 2010, and only went above it because Thome dropped to such a low price. If they’re already over-budget, they’re going to have trouble adding Hudson at any price. It sucks, of course, but that’s generally how budgets work, especially for teams without unlimited funds.

Even the Yankees are unwilling, this year, to stretch beyond their budget (even though their revenues are sky-high).

]]> By: rghrbek http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3325 rghrbek Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:40:06 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3325 <p>Great post!</p> <p>I saw both things above about O-Hud. I want to believe Buster more, but....</p> <p>Can you believe the twins wouldn't sign an all star, gold glove, caliper 2nd basement for 3 million? How cheap is that. Why doesn't Powers write about that, when talking about how the Twins are not trying to compete with the big boys?</p> <p>Now with a new stadium, we will bump the payroll up to 92 mil but not 95 mil?</p> <p>If Jesse Crain was non tendered, they could afford Hudson or someone else for 3 to 5 mil.</p> Great post!

I saw both things above about O-Hud. I want to believe Buster more, but….

Can you believe the twins wouldn’t sign an all star, gold glove, caliper 2nd basement for 3 million? How cheap is that. Why doesn’t Powers write about that, when talking about how the Twins are not trying to compete with the big boys?

Now with a new stadium, we will bump the payroll up to 92 mil but not 95 mil?

If Jesse Crain was non tendered, they could afford Hudson or someone else for 3 to 5 mil.

]]> By: sirsean http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3324 sirsean Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:00:00 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3324 <p>Alas, according to Joe C, they're unwilling to spend as much as $3M on him. So ... I wouldn't expect a deal anytime soon.</p> Alas, according to Joe C, they’re unwilling to spend as much as $3M on him. So … I wouldn’t expect a deal anytime soon.

]]> By: FunBobby http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3323 FunBobby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:55:02 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3323 <p>according to buster olney, the twins appear to be in "strong pursuit" of orlando hudson. Great news if true.</p> according to buster olney, the twins appear to be in “strong pursuit” of orlando hudson. Great news if true.

]]> By: sirsean http://firegardy.com/2010/01/31/the-sunflower-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-3322 sirsean Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:07:52 +0000 http://firegardy.com/?p=939#comment-3322 <p>It's a symptom of people putting too much stock into small sample sizes, and it bothers me.</p> It’s a symptom of people putting too much stock into small sample sizes, and it bothers me.

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